The Average Man

Saturday, April 26, 2008

PELOSI DOESN'T GET IT

The following is a quote from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi regarding Hillary and Barack running together ...

I don't think it's a good idea...I think that first of all that the candidates, whoever he or she may be, should choose his or her own vice presidential candidate. I think that's appropriate. That's where you would see the comfort level on not only how to run, but how to govern the country and there's plenty of talent to go around ..for a good strong ticket. I'm not one of those who thinks that that's a good ticket.

So, here's my question ... What good does it do for one of them to pick a VP based on "comfort level" or some such thing if they lose to McCain? The point of having them run together is not so they can govern more effectively or whatever; it's to prevent alienating millions of Democrats who would stay home if their candidate doesn't get the nomination. That's the big fear right now after this nightmare battle they're waging.

My opinion is -- if you really want to be elected President in November -- you better suck it up and consider your rival. It's not unheard of ... Reagan picked Bush after all.

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11 Comments:

At 2:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello t.l., I see your point, but I couldn't disagree more. I wish a house would fall on Billary.

 
At 4:07 PM, Blogger TheAverageMan said...

I think that statement is basically stating a position without actually stating one. If that does actually become the ticket, it should seem like it's coming from the candidate him or herself, not because of pressure from other dems.

That said, I don't think that's necessarily the best strategy. Right now, everybody's dug in their heels for their candidate, but once it's settled, and it becomes Democrat vs. McCain, most, if not all dems will be over it.

And while each of them as VP is probably the best insurance against being assasinated :) , the prospect of a black guy AND a woman running is pretty radical for most of America.

 
At 7:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two or three months ago, I would have been happy with the "dream ticket." But I'm very upset with Hillary's actions over the last few months.

Florida and Michigan have been off the table since the beginning. She knew that going in and thumbed her nose at the party by campaigning there and continues to do so by seeking those delegates. Her campaign has been shocking in its filth.

In any case, I think Bill Richardson would be a superb VP for either one. He was my original preference for prez anyway.

Although she is not my choice, I will vote for Hillary if she somehow pulls it out because McCain represents a continuation of W's policies. That is unacceptable.

I hope the Averageman is correct about eventual Democratic unity, because a Democratic president is going to need more spread in Congress if he or she is going to accomplish anything.

 
At 9:17 PM, Blogger TheAverageMan said...

Speaking of party unity, Howard Dean was talking about exactly that on Meet The Press last night. Listen about 1:00 in -- he makes the really great point that the most important person in the party right now is the one who _doesn't_ win the nomination, because they will have to go out and campaign for the other once it's settled.

Which is, of course, why Hillary, or more specifically, Hillary's campaign advisors, should stop attacking Obama, because it will just be that much harder if/when he is the nominee to have to take back the things she's said. Obama, on the other hand, won't have that problem.

 
At 10:10 AM, Blogger Trekking Left said...

All great comments. I guess the one thing I'd say, however, is that many of Obama's followers are not excited about politics or Democrats; they're excited about him.

I think it's far from guaranteed that all those new voters and young people he's attracting will automatically switch to Hillary. I think it's more likely that they will be disillusioned with the whole process and stay home in November. That is why she should pick him as VP if she wins ... and he should accept.

 
At 10:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Billary is more like McCain than Obama. If Obama wins I'll bet dollars to donuts she stumps for McCain. She is a sellout, a neo-con, a chickenhawk. Her stance on the war and selling out to foreign interests over that of average 'murkins is sickening. Her and Bill made $109 million after being in office, you know that is an after the fact bribe.

 
At 7:04 AM, Blogger Weaseldog said...

Don't make the mistake in thinking that Pelosi is really a Democrat.

On all the issues that matter, she speaks like a Democrat, then votes like a Republican.

She's not a sellout. She's a Republican plant.

Harry Reid is also a Republican, pretending to be a Democrat in my opinion.

The longstanding argument that has been used, is that because they don't have the votes to defeat Republicans, they must lend them their support in promoting policies that go against the Democratic platform. They must aid the Republicans, even if that means betraying America.

A true Democrat, voting on behalf of his or her constituents would at least vote 'nay' on many of these policies, even if that means they are casting their vote on the losing side.

Nancy Pelosi, became a staunch Bush supporter after being elected with a mandate for change and impeachment. I don't believe she is a sellout. I believe she is just a power hungry liar. She sold her soul to Satan long ago.

 
At 10:25 AM, Blogger Trekking Left said...

Hey Weaseldog - Thanks for reading and commenting on our blog. While I'm quite unhappy with many of the decisions made by Pelosi (and other Democrats) since 2006, I wouldn't go so far as to say she's a Republican plant. But they have certainly lacked the political courage to stop funding the war and such.

 
At 1:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hillary Clinton has decided to line up with John McCain in pushing to suspend the federal excise tax on gasoline, 18.4 cents a gallon, for this summer’s travel season...

 
At 11:14 AM, Blogger Trekking Left said...

Edgar - Yeah, I read that yesterday as well. Seems that Obama is right to oppose the idea. What do you think?

 
At 3:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think McCain and Clinton are the same person. We should be raises gas taxes and import taxes instead of cutting. I hate McBillary.

 

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